Rakesh Wadhwa:

What do you think about procrastination as an idea generator and a creative release?

Nir Eyal:

Not true.  What you can call it is a diversion. Okay. Diversions of attention are fine, but distraction is never good. By definition procrastination is not helpful ever. Now what you can, you can plan those things, right?

You can say, look, I want time to play video games. I want time to meditate. I want time to pray. I want time to stare at the ceiling. Fine do it. But plan that in your day. Because if you are getting destroyed by the very definition of the term, you are doing something you did not plan to do. So it's never helpful.

Diversion on the other hand can be a good thing. A Diversion is defined as a refocusing of attention. So if you want to watch a movie, watch a movie, enjoy it. Right. If you want to play video games, play video games, but that's not a distraction.

As long as it's planned for. Remember the time you plan to waste is not wasted time. Here's the thing. One of the benefits of becoming in distractible. Is that you for the first time will actually enjoy leisure. Most people listening to me right now have never experienced what it really means to enjoy leisure time, because I know what you do, even when you're with your kids, even when you're with your friends, even when you're watching a movie or reading a book, right.

In the back of your head, if you're a top performer, if you're an, a type personality, someone who is a high achiever in the back of it in your head, you're thinking, Oh, I didn't finish everything on my to do list or, Oh, I bet I have some emails waiting for me, or I wonder if I should just,  do that other thing you can't really enjoy even the leisure time.

And so that's such a huge benefit of becoming indistractible because now the leisure time becomes exactly what you plan to do. Now that is traction, whether it's scrolling Facebook or WhatsApp or Instagram, or watching a movie, reading a book, that is exactly what you plan to do is now traction rather than a distraction, because that's what you are doing with intent.